LSWR Gate Stock Pull Push sets announced by Kernow models

I am happy to post with the permission of  Kernow Models the following announcement, from them:

We are pleased to announce that we have commissioned Dapol to produce the much-requested LSWR Push-Pull Gate Set in OO Gauge.  This will be produced from tools owned by Kernow Model Rail Centre and will be to the same high standard as the Beattie Well Tank and forthcoming Adams O2 Models.  We will be working closely with Graham Muspratt and Mike King to ensure the models are as accurate as possible.

Set 373, image courtesy of Colour Rail via Kernow Models

K1001 Set number 363 in SR Lined Maunsell Green livery

K1002 Set number 373 in SR unlined Malachite Green livery

K1003 Set number 374 in BR Crimson livery

K1004 Set number 373 in BR (SR) Green livery

Each twin pack will contain the Driving Brake Composite and Third coach and will be priced at £99.99 including postage to UK addresses.

Delivery is expected late 2012 to early 2013.

An O2 and Set 373, image courtesy of Colour Rail via Kernow Models


The sharp eyed amongst you will notice my name in the release as I have been assisting Kernow Models for a while now with their Southern Railway related commissions and have been researching and obtaining the relevant LSWR original drawings for this stock that was originally built in 1914 which have now been obtained and from which the CAD drawings for the model will be created.

I would encourage any pre-orders to be made via the website links rather than contact the shop direct at this moment in time.

Note: Post updated 29th Nov to reflect the correction to the K1001 set which will now be Set 363 to reflect the reforming of Set 372 to set 363 in 1933.

18 thoughts on “LSWR Gate Stock Pull Push sets announced by Kernow models”

    1. grahammuz – A railway modeller with a keen insterest in all things Southern Railway especially the 1946 to 1949 period. I can often be seen on the exhibition circuit with my Layout Fisherton Sarum or assiting MIke Wild the Editor of Hornby Magazine with his layouts at shows. I am also long time member of the High Wycombe and District Model Railway Society
      grahammuz says:

      Hi Barry

      I am not aware of immediate plans for such a livery.

  1. Great news. Just as my bank balance was starting to recover after all those Hornby Maunsells too!
    Barry Harding

    1. grahammuz – A railway modeller with a keen insterest in all things Southern Railway especially the 1946 to 1949 period. I can often be seen on the exhibition circuit with my Layout Fisherton Sarum or assiting MIke Wild the Editor of Hornby Magazine with his layouts at shows. I am also long time member of the High Wycombe and District Model Railway Society
      grahammuz says:

      Hi Paul yes for some that might be the case if an accurate kit was available. It would seem the days of China being the low cost option that it once was has changed. The pricing also has to reflect the costs at the time of delivery in over 12 months time.

  2. Graham

    Can you tell us please, is the model design/construction such that the underframe may be used separately (in conjunction with another body)?

    Secondly, are the model bogies exact copies of the Fox lightweight version, or could they make an equally acceptable interpretation of the heavier version.

    Thirdly, do the models include the smooth steel sheet surface that replaced part of the beading in later years.

    Fourthly, have you chosen your preferred shade of Malachite!

    PB

    1. grahammuz – A railway modeller with a keen insterest in all things Southern Railway especially the 1946 to 1949 period. I can often be seen on the exhibition circuit with my Layout Fisherton Sarum or assiting MIke Wild the Editor of Hornby Magazine with his layouts at shows. I am also long time member of the High Wycombe and District Model Railway Society
      grahammuz says:

      Peter

      Many thanks for the comment. We are still at early design from a design perspective but I already share your thoughts about the construction being such that the underframe and bogies could be utilised for other potential models in the future.
      Likewise the ability to change the body moulding to represent the plating seen in later years is something we are investigating.
      I will be proposing colours for matching purposes in due course.

      1. Thanks Graham,

        I find this most heartening news. In an email of a couple of months back, Chris of KMC hinted at the possibility of Gatestock, and, frankly, I was amazed. Also delighted by the determination for quality. So, fingers crossed that all goes well, and that future similar projects follow.

        I guess that your resources somewhat outstrip mine, but on the sublect of coaches, I have (inter alia) copies of the following Eastleigh drawings:
        #8469. H12 Railcar.
        #1474 Pymouth Gate Stock.
        # 225. 47ft 6in Eagle Saloon.
        # 968. 48ft 0in Brake Lav Tri-compo.

        These are not subject to anyone’s copyright claim, and you would be most welcome to access them, and other bits and pieces in my library which could be used in the name of research.

        PB

    1. grahammuz – A railway modeller with a keen insterest in all things Southern Railway especially the 1946 to 1949 period. I can often be seen on the exhibition circuit with my Layout Fisherton Sarum or assiting MIke Wild the Editor of Hornby Magazine with his layouts at shows. I am also long time member of the High Wycombe and District Model Railway Society
      grahammuz says:

      These sets were not used on the IOW although I believe some similar 56′ length stock was.
      The sets could be found on the following services at various times during their life:
      Seaton – Seaton Junction
      Yeovil Town – Yeovil Junction (363, 373)
      Lee-on-the-Solent – Fareham (374 up to 1930)
      Ascot – Guildford (374)
      Farnham – Guildford (374)
      Bordon – Guildford (373)
      Plymouth – Turnchapel (363, 373, 374)
      Plymouth – St Budeaux – Tavistock (including Bere Alston – Callington non pull push mode) (363, 373, 374)
      They saw railtour use during the 1950’s and have been recorded at Plymouth, Plymstock, Callington, Turnchaple, Exteter, Yeovil, Salisbury, Bisley, Bournemouth, Poole, and Swanage.

      I do not believe that set 363 was in BR(s) green as it remained in BR Crimson, set 373 was in a livery classed as BR(s) Green which is more likely to have been heavily varnished Malachite (giving it a darker hue) but with S prefixes to the numbers. Set 374 was definitely in unlined malachite green in 1945 and again is more likely to have survived in heavily varnished malachite rather than actual BR(S) Green.

      1. In response to the question regarding use of ex-LSW stock on the IoW, the following may be of help. In the 1920s and 1930s three similar ex-mainland three sets were in use. Each set had a pair of converted 48ft Brake Tri-composites at each end, and in the middle a 46ft composite. Almost certainly they would have finished their working lives in Maunsell’s olive green livery.

        PB

      2. grahammuz – A railway modeller with a keen insterest in all things Southern Railway especially the 1946 to 1949 period. I can often be seen on the exhibition circuit with my Layout Fisherton Sarum or assiting MIke Wild the Editor of Hornby Magazine with his layouts at shows. I am also long time member of the High Wycombe and District Model Railway Society
        grahammuz says:

        Peter.

        I must admit I am not up on the rolling stock used on the IoW without referring to a few books so many thanks for the additional information.

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