Hornby have today announced their full range for 2017. As with the range for 2016 new tooling announcements fro 2017 have already been made during the last year via their informative Engineshed blog and a presentation /launch at the Warley National Model Railway Exhibition. These from a Southern Railway perspective has already included the announcement last September of the ex SECR 0-4-4T H class Tank.
[Updated 13/01/17] R3566 – BR 4-6-2 ‘British India Line’ Rebuild Bulleid Merchant Navy Pacific number ‘35018’ has been changed to be 35014 ‘Nederland Line’ due to the unique detail differences of 35018 as the pioneer rebuilt of the class.
[Updated 16/01/17] Confirmation that R3568 – BR Class 71 ‘E5018’ will be in BR Green Livery with plain green ends.
The range also sees a welcome reintroduction of the Bulleid 0-6-0 Q1, Light Pacific Classes; both Air Smoothed and rebuilt, and reverse SR / BR liveries for the two excellent Diagram 1529 and Diagram 1530 SR Cattle wagons introduced last year.
The aim of this post is to round up the announcements that are of a Southern Railway / Southern Region interest, it should be noted that as I advised here a number of the 2016 range announcements have already been moved into the 2017 range for release, Including the original Bulleid Merchant Navy Pacifics (detailed in my post here) and these items are highlighted below by a Red [*]. An indication of the planned release date via the Quarter system (eg [Q2] is also provided.
Locomotives
- R3515 – SR 4-6-2 ‘Kenley’ ’21c168′ Bulleid Battle of Britain Light Pacific – 4500 gallon tender – SR Malachite Green. Part of Hornby’s ‘The Final Day Collection’ Marking the 70th Anniversary of the end of the ‘Big Four’. Represents the condition she ran in between introduction in October 1947 and September 1948. The Final Day Collection range also includes a GWR King Class, LMS Royal Scot Class and LNER A3 Class. [Q3]
- R3521 – BR 0-4-4T Drummond ex LSWR M7 Class number ‘30129’ long frame, pull push fitted in BR Lined black with late emblem, as she ran between April 1960 and November 1963. [Q2]
- R3524 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Trevone’ Rebuilt Bulleid West Country Light Pacific number 34096 in BR Brunswick Green with late emblem representing her condition between April 1961 and September 1964. [Q3]
- R3525 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Sir Archibold Sinclair’ Bulleid Battle of Britain Light Pacific number ‘s21c159’- 4500 gallon tender – Malachite Green with s prefix to number and Sunshine ‘British Railways’ on tender. Representing her condition between Feb 1948 and March 1949. [Q2]
- R3527 – SR 4-6-0 ‘Camelot’ Urie N15 Class number 742, Urie style tender – Post war Bulleid black with ‘Sunshine’ lettering representing her condition between June 1942 and August 1946. [Q2]
- R3528 – ex LBSC A1X ‘Terrier’ Class – Number 4 in Weston, Clevedon and Portishead green livery.[Q3]
- R3538 – [New Tooling for 2017] ex SECR 0-4-4T H Class number 308 in full SECR lined green. No.308 was built at Ashford Works in June 1906, entering traffic at Slades Green and was repainted to Maunsell Dark Green in 1925. [Q4]
- R3539 – [New Tooling for 2017] ex SECR 0-4-4T H Class number 31518 BR late crest (with Overhead Electric warning flashes) lined black and pull push fitted. As she ran between post 1956 to January 1964. [Q4]
- R3549 – [New Tooling for 2017] ex SECR 0-4-4T H Class number 1324 SR post 1931 Maunsell Olive Green. 1324 I believe also made it through the war still in olive green! [Q4]
- R3559 – SR 0-6-0 Bulleid Q1 class number C24 – Post war Bulleid black livery. [Q4]
- R3559 – BR 0-6-0 Bulleid Q1 class number 33032 – BR Unlined black livery late emblem. [Q4]
- R3566 – [Updated 13/01/17] BR 4-6-2 ‘Nederland Line Rebuild Bulleid Merchant Navy Pacific number ‘35014’ in BR Brunswick Green with early crest and black backed nameplate representing her condition between May 1956 and December 1960 (when a speedometer was fitted. [Note: This replaces the originally announced 35018 due to the unique detail differences of 35018 as the pioneer rebuild of the class]. [Q4]
- R3568 – BR Class 71 ‘E5018’ [Updated 16/01/17 to reflect confirmation of the livery as being with plain green ends] – BR Green, with Plain green ends. [Q2]
- R3569 – BR Class 71 ‘E5005’ BR Blue. [Q4]
- R3577 – Not Southern related, but included on this post just because…, Sentinel 0-4-0 diesel shunter Oxfordshire Ironstone Co, red livery with connecting rods named ‘Graham’. [Q3]
- [*] R3412 – BR 4-6-0 ‘30842’ Maunsell S15 Class, flat sided tender – BR Black early crest. [Q1]
- [*] R3422- SR 4-4-2T ‘3125’ Adams Radial 0415 Class – Bullied post war black and Sunshine lettering. [Q1]
- [*] R3423 – BR 4-4-2T ‘30583’ Adams Radial 0415 Class – BR lined black late emblem. [Q1]
- [*] R3434 – SR 4-6-2 ‘Channel Packet’ ’21C1′ Merchant Navy Class (Original Air Smoothed) represents her very early condition from when first introduced in February 1941 and May 1941. [Q1]
- [*] R3435 – SR 4-6-2 ‘Royal Mail’ ’21C3′ Merchant Navy Class (Original Air Smoothed) is as introduced in September 1941 condition again and when she was painted in wartime black livery in May 1943. [Q4]
- [*] R3436 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Clan Line’ ‘35028’ Merchant Navy Class (Original Air Smoothed) – BR Brunswick Green. early crest. Modelled without the fairings between the front of the cylinders and the buffer beam and with safety vales in the forward position representing the condition she ran in between June 1953 and December 1954. [Q3]
- [*] R3445 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Camelford’ ‘34032’ West Country Class – BR Early – Air Smoothed representing the condition she ran in between January 1951 and October 1954 when safety vales were resited. [Q2]
- [*] R3457 – SR 4-4-0 ‘116’ Class T9 – Post 1931 lined Maunsell olive green [Q1]
- [*] R3458 – SR 4-4-0 ‘Shrewsbury’ Schools Class number ‘921’ – SR Black with Sunshine lettering, Lemaitre large diameter blast pipe and chimney as her condition between April 1944 and January 1948. [Q1]
- [*] R3468 – BR 4-6-2 ‘603 Squadron’ ‘34077’ Battle of Britain Class – Rebuilt – BR Lined Brunswick Green with late emblem as her conditon between July 1960 and August 1967. [Q2]
- [*] R3373 – BR Class 71 ‘E5001’ NRM – BR Green. [Q1]
In addition to the ex SECR 0-4-4T H class tanks Hornby’s new tooling for 2017 comprises of LMS 4-6-2 Modified Princess Coronation Class, BR Class 87 Electric locomotive (including R3582 number 87010 ‘King Arthur ‘) and the latest Hitachi soon to be introduced on the UK network IEP Bi-Mode Class 800/0 units. Although the 2017 range includes a number of post war Southern liveries, suiting the period I model, I would add that as far as I am aware that has not been due in any way to my influence.
Twin Track Sound (TTS) fitted Locomotives
- [*] R3382TTS – BR 4-6-2 ‘Holland-Afrika Line’ ‘35023’ Merchant Navy (Original Air Smoothed) – BR Brunswick Green, early crest with TTS Sound representing the condition she ran in between gaining Brunswick green in March 1952 and the fairings being removed in May 1953. [Q2]
- R3507TTS – BR 4-6-0 ‘30832’ Maunsell S15 Class, Urie style tender – BR Black early crest representing the condition she ran in between March 1951 and June 1957. [Q3]
Train and Coach packs
- R3512 – H Class Pull / Push Train Pack – Limited Edition, comprising of Wainright ex SECR 0-4-4T H Class tank number 31551 in BR Lined Black with late emblem livery and BR ex Maunsell Pull Push set number 602 – coaches S1318S (SO) and S6681S (BCK) in BR(s) Green. Set 602 was unusual in that the outer end of the SO also had the set number applied, which will be correctly recreated by Hornby. [Q4]
- R4534E BR ex Maunsell Pull Push Coach pack set number 601 – coaches S1315S (SO) and S6687S (BCK) in BR(s) Green. [Q2]
- [*] R3398 – Lyme Regis Branch Line Train Pack – Limited Edition, Comprising of Adams 0415 radial tank number 30583 in BR lined black with early crest and two coach set No. 42 made up from Brake Third No. S2636S and Brake Composite No. S6401S in BR Crimson [Q1]
Coaches
- R4792 – SR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Eight Compartment Brake Third Class Non-Corridor, SR Green, Diagram 99 No. 2638 that formed set 44 with R4794. [Q3]
- R4793 – S R 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Six Compartment Lavatory Brake Third Coach, SR Green diagram 98 No. 2628 used as ‘loose’ stock. [Q3]
- R4794 – SR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Six Compartment Lavatory Brake Composite Coach, SR Green, Diagram 418 No. 6403 that formed set 44 with R4792. [Q3]
- R4795 – SR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Nine Compartment Lavatory Third Class Coach, SR Green, Diagram 31 No. 320 used as ‘loose’ stock. [Q3]
- R4746A – BR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Eight Compartment Brake Third Class Non-Corridor, BR Crimson, Diagram 99 No. S2646S that formed set 46 with R4748A. [Q3]
- R4747A – BR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Six Compartment Brake Third Coach, BR Crimson, diagram 98 No. S2627S used as ‘loose’ stock. [Q3]
- R4748A – BR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Six Compartment Lavatory Brake Composite Coach, BR Crimson, diagram 418 N0, S6405S that formed set 46 with R4746A. [Q3]
- R4749A – BR 58′ Maunsell Rebuilt (Ex-LSWR 48’) Nine Compartment Lavatory Third Class Coach, BR Crimson, diagram 31 No. S280S used as ‘loose’ stock. [Q3]
- R4768 – SR Maunsell 6 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – SR Olive Green – High window style to diagram 2110, Number 3778, branded set 243. [Q2]
- R4768A – SR Maunsell 6 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – SR Olive Green – High window style to diagram 2110, Number 3779, branded set 243. [Q2]
- R4769 – SR Maunsell Corridor 8 Compartment Third Class Coach – SR Olive Green – High window style to diagram 2001, Number 1224, part of 4 coach set 243. [Q2]
- R4770 – SR Maunsell Corridor 7 compartment First Class Coach – SR Olive Green – High window style to diagram 2501, Number 7412, part of 4 coach set 243. [Q2]
- R4796 – SR Maunsell 6 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – BR Crimson and Cream – High window style to diagram 2110, Number 3777, branded set 247. [Q2]
- R4796A – SR Maunsell 6 Compartment Third Class Brake Coach – BR Crimson and Cream – High window style to diagram 2110, Number 3794, branded set 247. [Q2]
- R4797 – SR Maunsell Corridor 7 compartment First Class Coach – BR Crimson and Cream – High window style to diagram 2501, Number 7212, part of 4 coach set 247. [Q2]
- R4798 – SR Maunsell Corridor 8 Compartment Third Class Coach – BR Crimson and Cream – High window style to diagram 2001, Number 1187, part of 4 coach set 247. [Q2]
It is good to see that Hornby, with a little advice, understand and acted upon the need to produce SR / BR(s) coaching stock to make up suitable set formations. The sets chosen by Hornby for the Maunsell high window style being 243 and 247 in SR and BR liveries respectively were two of the seven four coach sets 241 to 247 formed between March 1932 and April 1933 for use on the South Western section. A further release of the high window version of the Maunsells has been very often requested and these are the most logical sets to choose of that type of restriction 4 coach (as opposed to the narrower Hastings line stock of the same period) as other sets of that type comprised of a greater number of coaches so this creates correct and easily achievable sets.
Hornby’s new coach tooling for 2017 comprises of BR Mk 1 Brake Standard Open (BSO) and First Open (FO) coaches neither of which are being produced in BR(s) green this year.
Pullman Coaches
As is expected the Hornby range always includes a number of Pullman coaches, due Q1 2017 in 1950’s style livery, they are as follows:
- R4738 – First Class Parlour Car ‘Minerva’
- R4739 – Second Class Parloour Car ‘Car No.34’
- R4740 – First Class Kitchen Car ‘Argus’
- R4741 – Second Class Kitchen Car ‘ Car No. 58’
- R4742 – Second Class Brake Car ‘Car No. 162’
Wagons
- R6827 – SR Cattle truck in Pre 1936 large SR lettered livery, number 553767 – Maunsell diagram 1529. [Q4]
- R6827A – SR Cattle truck in Pre 1936 large SR lettered livery, number 3768 – Maunsell diagram 1529. [Q4]
- R6826 – BR ex SR Cattle truck – Bauxite livery, number B891313 – Bulleid diagram 1530. [Q4]
- R6826A – BR ex SR Cattle truck – Bauxite livery, number B891214 – Bulleid diagram 1530 (Note: this appears to be an incorrect running number as listed by Hornby and is possibly a typo that should perhaps be B891314, I am checking this with Hornby). [Q4]
Note: the 2017 Hornby Catalogue has incorrectly transposed the diagram numbers in its headings for these cattle trucks but the illustrations are correct. - R6802 – SR ex LBSC Brake Van in post 1936 Small lettered SR livery. [Q2]
- R6775 – SR Vent Van in in Pre 1936 large SR lettered livery. [Q2]
Hornby’s new wagon tooling for 2017 comprises of a GWR 20 ton Diagram AA15 ‘Toad’ brake van.
Railroad range
The Hornby Railroad range contains models from older tooling to suit a lower costs market segment and includes the following SR related items:
- R3586 – BR 4-4-0 Schools Class V number 30935 ‘Sevenoaks’ in BR Brunswick Green early crest livery
- R3591 – BR Class 73 number E6002 in early BR Green livery
- R4743 and R4744 – SR ‘generic’ Composite and Brake Third respectively in SR malachite green livery
The full Hornby 2017 range can be found on the Hornby website here. The issues affecting Hornby over the last few years has been well publicised and discussed elsewhere but this range, including items carried over from 2016 and the slightly fewer new tooled models for this year shows the practical and conservative approach being taken by the new management team. I hope that this and their apparent positive re-engagement with the retailers will hopefully lead to a prosperous 2017 for all.
Possible mistake – R3559 shown for both of the Q1 liveries.
Hi Tony, Well spotted duly corrected now the BR Version is R3560.
Thanks for the reassurance on the cattle wagon livery/diagrams, these and the green rebuilt Maunsells are top of my list. Patiently waiting for a Merchant Navy to go with my Devon Belle coach set.
Welcomed news – as always thank you Graham!
I note emus are conspicuous by their absence……..
Do you know if HA (class 71) E5018 is yellow warning panel (these seem to differ across the class) or plain end?
I believe the cantrail gutters on the HAs were added from mid-’63 on – does anybody have greater clarity on this?
Hi Colin
I think the EMUs are absent due to the quantities still with various retailers at the moment.
I have only seen the side on images in the catalogue so far (I was gindly provided with an advance electronic copy to be able to write the blog post) so am unable to tell if plain green or small yellow warning panel. I have a small list of queries to speak with Hornby about and will add this one to the list. Like you I do not know the exact dates of the cantrail gutters on the HAs but the Hornby model is a slight compromise as it is effectively based on the preserved E5000 and does not include tooling modifications to correctly represent as built condition.
Like you
Graham,
Thanks – the numbers of emus at retailers is an understandable reason for Hornby holding back this year.
In terms of the two HAs both Hornby’s nos. E5015 and E5022 do not have cantrail strips (looking closely it appears they may have been removed post-moulding process) although NRM E5001 does.
In terms of the original locomotives perceive there was an edit to equip the HAs with these (in 1963) as some appear to have been added during overhaul; others just called in for fitment.
Here at ESF we’ve had Hornby’s E5012 running around Ewhurst Green’s test track hauling twelve bogies with ease – it is a superb model. However, the wheels on Hornby’s HAs appear to collect dirt easily but as they are on a 2mm axle can be replaced (you need to change the splined axle). Colleague Matt has converted one to P4 (Shelvington) with ease.
Originally the HAs were equipped with spoked wheels but later on received monoblocs – E5001 was preserved with both versions on each bogie. Unfortunately the monoblocs were worn (it was expected to be preserved as a static loco) which limited its mainline outings.
As an aside the HAs were rated at 2,552 hp but I understand from Southern Region colleagues they had a one-hour rating of 4,000hp……
Kind regards,
Colin
Thank you Graham for this very informative post, I’ve been hoping for a S15 with a Urie tender in Early BR livery, by the way does anyone have any info on set 247? It’s just it seems a little unusual compared to the usual 3 and 4 car sets.
The sets chosen by Hornby being 243 and 247 in SR and BR liveries respectively were two of the seven four coach sets 241 to 247 formed between March 1932 and April 1933 for use on the South Western section.
Being of the much requested high window versions these are the most obvious sets of this coach type to have chosen.
Thank you so much for the info Graham, it is really appreciated. Trying to fully understand the complexities of Southern coaching sets with just the Oakwood Oress book can be very frustrating sometimes!
A quick look at the CWN’s shews SWD set 247 as loosing 1187 and 7212 in June 1951.
Need to track down the replacement vehicle(s) and SR to CLC painting dates for set 247 but by 1955 it was a 3-set with TK 5659 in the middle. TK 5659 was High-window /two lavatory vents (a version not yet produced in CLC by Hornby).
Just found set 247 became a 3-set in 1951 with TK 5691 (High-window /two lavatory vents) which was eventually exchanged for 5659.
Sorry, meant to put 5659 and 5691 as CKs.
Many thanks Colin methinks Hornby needs to rethink its numbering in CLC
I note Hornby have previously produced S15 nos. 30830 and 30831 with 30832 now following. Logical if not lacking imagination! 😉
Pullman car Minerva was previously produced as R4251 (Devon Belle set), Argus as R4164 and car no.162 as R4150C.
Useful date information. Thank you.
R3400 Golden Arrow Last Steam Run set should be in there somewhere
The R3400 set is actually a still classed as a 2016 release and is in production, I am told at the moment, which is why I have not included it in my round up of the 2017 programme. When it arrives it will contain the converted ex K type cars that were modified to match the later U type with the square windows but retained their K type underframes. So the model is replicating the prototype.
A useful update thanks. I suppose I can see the logic of producing more high window Maunsells in crimson and cream to go with the new streamlined MN and other early BR releases, but will they sell? Many of the original batch found their way down to bargain prices as they weren’t selling. On the other hand, we haven’t had further batches of the high window versions in BR(S) green which sold through quickly when released. In this respect I was also hoping we might see the 2-car W set that was cancelled from the 2016 range.
A CLC livery low-window Maunsell set would have been nice……. 🙂
Graham thanks for this consolidated post.
One question – where do you get your information on what dates a specific livery was applied to a loco/carriage set?
Thanks
Gus
Hi Gus, from either my database that has been compiled from, or direct from, my reference library of over 1000 books / historical documents.
Gus,
In terms of published information besides Mike King’s excellent books I can thoroughly recommend Glen Woods’ book Lancing 1956 which references all the passenger carrying vehicles passing through Lancing Works in 1956 (ISBN 978-0-9567655-2 St Petroc InfoPublishing). This is a most interesting record and Glen is working on books for other years.
Glen’s 1956 book includes the change from using CLC to green – last vehicle to be painted CLC no.376 on 17th July 1956 with no.6599 painted green same-day and no.61 repainted CLC to green 18th july 1956 (the last CLC Maunsell corridor coaches painted green in 1959; BR Mik.1 stock lasting several years longer).
In terms of multiple units (in association with John Atkinson) their histories are being placing on http://www.BloodandCustard.com. We have all the unit histories through to class 377 and are steadily working through each. Some have also been been published in Southern Way.
We believe this information should be available to all rather than squirreled away.
BR emu /demu painting dates are recorded and John /Glen are currently researching SR to BR livery painting dates. The difficult dates can be for application of yellow warning panels as some were undertaken ‘in works’ (dates recorded) ; others hastily done (following the ‘Derby’ edit) with a pot of paint in the sidings (dates not recorded) hence units still receiving yellow panels after others emerged from works with full yellow ends.
I hope this assists.
Colin Watts
http://www.BloodandCustard.com
Colin that’s great… Thanks
Graham, I do hope that 35018 will have not only the odd sand box filler but also the 90 degree bend injector pipes, firemans side and the differently positioned ejector pipe on drivers side of boiler that made this loco unique.
James
As I say in my post I am still in a dialogue with Hornby about this item, and will advise via an update to the post, as soon as I can.
247 Developments Have a full range of replacement BR smoke box No’s for the H class in stock
Hi Brian, that’s good to hear and I am more than happy to endorse 247 Developments on here
A number of vendors seem to be of the opinion that R6827 and R6827A are D1530, not D1529. Only KMRC seems to buck the trend!
From what I understand R6827 is a Diagram 1529 the most obvious way to check is that the D 1529 has planked ends not plain plywood ends.
Also only the D1529 would be correct to carry the pre 1936 large SR lettering.
Excellent, thank you Graham. I cannot examine the items before purchase, but Hattons’ photography (alas no stock) confirms that KMRC have it correct!