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‘New Van’ Goods Brake Vans ex LSWR Warner 20T SR diagram 1543 24T arrive from Hornby, we require a different chocolate!

Now the dust has settled on the announcement of the Hornby 2020 range, we can take a look at one of the ‘New Van’ items announced last January as part of the 2019 range, the LSWR/SR/BR(s) Warner 20 ton goods brake van. 75 of this type of van were built between 1915 and 1921. They were known to staff as ‘New Vans’ a name which they kept well into the 1950’s! They were up-rated to 24T by the Southern Railway and became SR Diagram 1543.

Before we get in to further detail, the elephant in the room is the body colour of the LSWR and SR versions. They have arrived in an incorrect light or milk chocolate brown (almost but not quite in my eyes but still wrong bauxite) when it should for both periods be dark wagon brown (dark chocolate so to speak).
I feel this error is a great shame as the rest of the model is an excellent rendition of the prototype. I would add that the BR unfitted grey livery versions look just fine.

The highly detailed tooling allows for detail variations including buffer shanks, different lamp bracket positions (and actual side lamps on the LSWR version) document holders, welded and riveted guards duckets as well spoked and disc wheels.

Those that have arrived just before Christmas with most most retailers from the 2019 range are as follows:

  • R6911 – LSWR 20 Ton Warner ‘New Van’  goods brake van, No. 9646, in LSWR goods brown livery
  • R6911A – LSWR 20 Ton Warner ‘New Van’ goods brake van, No. 5359, in LSWR goods brown livery
  • R6913 – SR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. 55062, in SR Pre 1936 goods brown livery
  • R6913A – SR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. 55009, in SR Pre 1936 goods brown livery
  • R6915 – BR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. S55040, in BR unfitted grey livery
  • R6915 – BR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. S55032, in BR unfitted grey livery

A further three versions have been announced as part of the 2020 range (and yes I have spoken to Hornby about the colour!)

  • R6911B LSWR 20t ‘New Van’ Goods Brake Van No.10124 in LSWR livery – available Aug
  • R6938 SR Diagram 1543 24t Goods Brake Van No. 55052 in post 1936 (small lettering) SR livery – available Aug
  • R6915B BR Diagram 1543 24t Goods Brake Van No. S55063 in BR grey livery – available Aug

As already stated above the detail of these models is excellent with separately applied hand rails and lamp irons, the LSWR version has the side lamps fitted between the verandas and side windows, whilst the later versions has these positions blanked off and lamps irons applied to the end uprights.

Sandboxes are included on the inside of each end, along with corresponding sandpipes and although pretty much impossible to see from the outside the inside of the van is detailed with its planked floor, stove and its stack along with the hand brake wheel and sanding operating lever.
If you want to see the internal detail remove the four cross head screws on the underside then prise the floor unit our of the body using a blade (it is not glued in place) this also gives access to the body inside which will hopefully allow me to remove the glazing at some stage to effect a repaint.

So in summary an excellent model with a good range of detail variations let down on this initial batch for the LSWR and SR livery by the wrong brown colour, ironic as they used the correct SR wagon dark brown on the previously released Diagram 1529 and 1530 cattle trucks. The BR(s) unfitted grey version is I state again totally correct.

 

 

 

 

Canute Road Quay making an appearance at the Warley National Model Railway exhibition this weekend; and a peek at the @Hornby ex LSWR Dia 1543 20T brake van

This weekend, 23rd and 24th November,  is the annual, self styled National Model Railway Exhibition at the NEC in Birmingham organised by the Warley Model Railway Club. It has become a major event in the model railway calendar with a large number and wide of layouts along with many associated trade stands, the key manufacturers and model railway press all present.

An Adams B4 shunts past an arriving Andrew Barclay at Canute Road Quay. Picture copyright and courtesy M Wild  / Hornby Magazine

As has become usual the last few years I shall be at the show all weekend with Mike Wild editor of Hornby Magazine on their stand A44. Every year Mike has one of his many layouts on the Hornby Magazine  stand A44, however this year there will be an extra special display with not one but four layouts and they will all be in different gauges too! Two of which will be making their public debut, assuming that Mike manages to actually finish them on time, he does like a deadline…

The first, very much complete layout,  in 00 gauge will be my very own Canute Road Quay and it will be joined on the stand by: in N Gauge Barrenthorpe Shed, in 009 a narrow gauge Lynton and Barnstaple style terminus, and in 0 gauge (the magazines very first 7mm exhibition layout) a diesel depot scene. The latter two are so new they don’t even have a name yet!

Livery sample of the Hornby upcoming LSWR Warner brake van, note the fixed side lamps

One of the items that will no doubt be on show on the Hornby stand (not the Hornby Magazine stand) will be the livery samples of their forthcoming ex LSWR/SR/BR(s) Warner 20 ton goods brake van that was announced as being part of their 2019 range in January.
75 of this type of van were built between 1915 and 1921.

The SR version note lamp irons and different ducket style

They were known to staff as ‘New Vans’ a name which they kept well into the 1950’s! They were up-rated to 24T by the Southern Railway and became SR Diagram 1543.
I was able last month to take a sneaky look at these samples and take a couple of quick snaps of both the LSWR and SR versions on Canute Road Quay.

Six versions will initially be available:

  • R6911 –  No. 9646, in LSWR goods brown livery
  • R6911A – No. 5359, in LSWR goods brown livery
  • R6913 – No. 55062, in SR Pre 1936 goods brown livery
  • R6913A – No. 55009, in SR Pre 1936 goods brown livery
  • R6915 –  No. S55040, in BR unfitted grey livery
  • R6915 –  No. S55032, in BR unfitted grey livery

Although the show is considered by some a bit of a Marmite show (and who does not love Marmite!) I believe it is still well worth a visit and compared to other hobbies / events still a good value for money day out.
It is a chance to see inspirational modelling in every scale and gauge from across the UK and even Europe along with the major manufacturers and traders all under one roof.
If you are coming along at the weekend, please make sure you drop by the Hornby Magazine stand  A44 have a look at Canute Road Quay and a natter. I look forward to seeing you there!

Hornby announce 2019 range including brand new ex LBSC A1/A1x Terrier and Bulleid 59ft coaches and ex LSWR Diagram 1543 20/24T brake van [Updated 11/01/19]

Hornby have today announced their full range for 2019.  The highlights  from a Southern Railway perspective being the brand new tooled ex LBSC A1 / A1x 0-6-0T “Terrier” (in direct competition with the announcement earlier this year of the Rails of Sheffied / Dapol version) Bulleid 1945 built 59ft ‘shortie’ coaching stock, Diagrams 2316 and 2121, and the ex LSWR Warners 20T / SR 24T Diagram 1543 brake vans.

The Hornby continental Arnold range in 1/148 N Gauge also sees a welcome reintroduction of the 5BEL Brighton Belle Set, in the 1934 livery as set 2053.

The aim of this post is to round-up the announcements that are of a Southern Railway / Southern Region interest and new for 2019, I have purposely not relisted those item previous announced and or still to actually appear. An indication of the planned release date via the Quarter system (eg [Q2] is also provided.

Locomotives

In a surprise move the range includes new tooling for the ex LBSC A1/A1x Terrier, the tooling incorporates many of the changes within this class of locomotives in service and preservation. There are also of course a number of new liveries of existing tooling:

  • R3649 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Ellerman Lines’ ‘35029’ Merchant Navy (Original Air Smoothed) – BR Brunswick Green, early crest representing the condition she ran in between July 1952 and June 1959 when she was rebuilt. [Q4]
  • R3716 – BR 4-6-2 ‘Holland America Line’ ‘35022’ Merchant Navy (Original Air Smoothed) – BR Brunswick Green, early crest representing the condition she ran in between February 1952 and June 1959 when she was rebuilt. [Q3]
  • R3717 – SR 4-6-2 ‘Aberdeen Commonwealth’ ‘21C7’ Merchant Navy (Original Air Smoothed) – SR Wartime Black, original ‘widows peak- front end with no smoke deflectors representing the condition she ran in between July 1942 and August 1944 when she gained short flared smoke deflectors and the standard style hood over the smokebox [Q3]
  • R3732 – BR 4-6-0 ”Sir Walter Raleigh” No. 30852, Maunsell Lord Nelson Class in in BR Brunswick Green with early crest,  Lemaitre chimney, smoke deflectors and high sided tender. Representing the condition she ran between December 1951 and October 1958 [Q4]
  • R3733 – BR 4-6-0 ‘Robert Blake’ No. 30855 Maunsell Lord Nelson Class in BR Brunswick Green with late emblem,  Lemaitre chimney,  smoke deflectors and high sided tender. Representing the condition she ran between  August 1958 and withdrawal in October 1961 [Q4]
  • R3731 BR 0-4-0T No. 31177 H Class in BR lined black with early crest, pull push fitted [Q3]

  • R3780 A1 class 0-6-0T No. 655″Stepney” “terrier in LBSC Stroudly improved engine ‘green’ livery with above footplate sandboxes [Q1]
  • R3782 ex LBSC 0-4-0T A1 class No. 751  “Terrier” in SECR Lined green with above footplate sandboxes [Q1]
  • R3783 SR 0-6-0T No. 2662 A1X class “Terrier” in SR post 1931 lined olive green with below footplate sandboxes [Q1]

  • R3767 BR 0-6-0T No. 32655 A1X class “Terrier” in BR Lined Black with early crest  (new tooling) [Q1]

  • R3768 BR 0-6-0T No. 32636 A1X class “Terrier” in BR Lined Black with late emblem (new tooling) [Q1]
  • R3781 K&ESR 0-6-0T No. 5 A1 Class “Terrier” “Rolvenden” in K&ESR Blue [Q1]

Coaches

Being introduced from brand new tooling for 2019 are the Bulleid 59ft ‘Shortie’ coaches. These were part of 18 three coach sets, formed Diagram 2121 BTK – Diagram 2316 CK –  Diagram 2121 BTK, with set numbers 963 to 980. They were ordered in 1944 utilising Maunsell 59ft underframes that were originally constructed in 1940, then stored, when further construction was suspended by the war. Whilst similar in layout to previous Maunsell coaches, with doors for each compartment on the non corridor side (known as Multi-door) , externally they featured the new Bulleid bodyside profile. Bulleid new profile had already been introduced on the 4 Sub EMU set 4101 in 1941 with the body having a continuous curve from floor to cantrail and the characteristic lozenge shaped toplights over the droplight windows.
Hornby are releasing versions to correctly form Sets 965 and 973 in SR ‘Malachite’ green and Sets 968 and 972 in BR(s) green. The BR(s) versions include revised tooling to include: recessed / flush door toplights, later guards door handrail styles, rainstrips, end steps and the reinforcing beading added along the sides at waist the line.
[update 07/01/19] Additional livery historical information kindly supplied by Colin Watts:
Set 965 (Malachite) to Crimson and Cream (CLC)  March 1956 then to BR(S) Green  June 1958
Set 968 (Malachite) to CLC December 1953 then to BR(S) Green July 1957
Set 972 BR(S) Green from CLC February 1958
Set 973 BR(s) Green from CLC November 1957
These are a logical extension to the Hornby range who already have the details of the underframe and SR standard 8ft bogies from their excellent Maunsell coach range.

3d Test print of the Bulleid 59ft BTK. Picture courtesy A York
3D test print of the Bulleid 59ft CK. Picture courtesy A York
  • R4882 – SR Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2316 corridor composite No. 5711 from Set 965 in SR ‘Malachite’ green livery [Q2]
  • R4882A – SR Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2316 corridor composite No. 5719 from Set 973 in SR ‘Malachite’ green livery [Q2]
  • R4884 – SR Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. 2845 from Set 965 in SR ‘Malachite’ green livery [Q2]
  • R4884A – SR Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. 2846 from Set 965 in SR ‘Malachite’ green livery [Q2]
  • R4884B – SR Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. 2861 from Set 973 in SR ‘Malachite’ green livery [Q2]
  • R4884C – SR Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. 2862 from Set 973 in SR ‘Malachite’ green livery [Q2]
  • R4886 – BR(s) Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2316 corridor composite No. S5714S from Set 968 in BR(s) green livery [Q2]
  • R4886A – BR(s) Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2316 corridor composite No. S5718S from Set 972  in BR(s) green livery [Q2]
  • R4888 – BR(s) Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. S2851S from Set 968 in BR(s) green livery [Q2]
  • R4888A – BR(s) Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. S2852S from Set 968 in BR(s) green livery [Q2]
  • R4888B – BR(s) Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. S2859S from Set 972 in BR(s) green livery [Q2]
  • R4888C – BR(s) Bulleid 59′ Diagram 2121 corridor brake 3rd  No. S2859S from Set 972 in BR(s) green livery [Q2]
  • [updated 08/01/19] R4816a Maunsell Kitchen Dining First No.7865 Diagram 2656 in unlined olive green [Q1]
  • R4817A – BR Maunsell Kitchen Dining First Number S7858S Diagram 2651, in BR(s) Green. [Q1]
  • R4904 – Pullman ‘K’ Type ‘New Century Bar’, 8 wheel. In July 1946 the original 8 wheeled ‘TRIANON BAR’ after being displaced from the Golden Arrow set, re-entered service as the NEW CENTURY BAR (second version) on the Ostend boat train, remaining in service until 1952. It was then transferred to Waterloo for use with Southampton cross Channel boat train services. [Q4]

EMU Packs

  • R3699 – BR(s) 2 Hil, Unit 2611 in BR(s) green livery. This hybrid unit was formed when 2 Hal unit 2611 was involved in a collision  with 2 Bil unit No. 2113 in late 1959 and the undamaged 2 Hal Driving Motor Brake Third (DMBT) No. 10729 and 2 Bil Driving Trailer Composite (DTC) No. 12146 were paired as a 2 Hil unit until March 1961 before it reverted back to a 2 Hal unit after its original DTC No. 12196 was repaired [Q4]

  • R3700 – SR 2 Bil, Unit 2152 in SR lined olive-green livery. Unit 2152 comprised of DMBT No. 10718 and DTC No. 12185. It was the last in the series and was introduced in November 1938 for the London Waterloo  – Reading services [Q4]
  • The Class 373 Eurostar also makes a reappearance, from original tooling, in the latest livery as a driving power car train pack and a centre coach pack

Wagons

The 2019 range also sees new tooling for the LSWR/SR/BR(s) Warner 20 ton goods brake van. 75 of this type of van were built between 1915 and 1921. They were known to staff as ‘New Vans’ a name which they kept well into the 1950’s! They were up-rated to 24T by the Southern Railway and became SR Diagram 1543.
[Update 11/01/19] tooling allows for variations across the buffer shanks, differing lamp brackets and fix lamps, documents holders, welded and rivetted duckets as well as disc and spoked wheels.

Dia 1543 3D test print. Picture courtesy A York
  • R6911 – LSWR 20 Ton Warner ‘New Van’  goods brake van, No. 9646, in LSWR goods brown livery [Q4]
  • R6911A – LSWR 20 Ton Warner ‘New Van’ goods brake van, No. 5359, in LSWR goods brown livery [Q4]
  • R6913 – SR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. 55062, in SR Pre 1936 goods brown livery [Q4]
  • R6913A – SR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. 55009, in SR Pre 1936 goods brown livery [Q4]
  • R6915 – BR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. S55040, in BR unfitted grey livery [Q4]
  • R6915 – BR Diagram 1543, 24 Ton Brake Van, No. S55032, in BR unfitted grey livery [Q4]
  • R6840A – BR ex SR Cattle truck –  Bauxite livery, No. S52347 – Bulleid diagram 1530. [Q1]

TTS DCC Sound decoders

  • R7141 TTS Sound Decoder – Merchant Navy Pacific [Q2]

Arnold N Gauge 1.148 scale 

The 5Bel Brighton Belle Set is reintroduced, in the 1934 livery as set 2053. Although primarily a continental Brand Arnold part of the Hornby Hobbies group are producing these units in the more usual UK N gauge scale of 1:148. Supplied as driving car pack numbers Motor Parlour 3rd Brakes No. 92 and No. 93 and an intermediate three car pack comprising of First Kitchen Cars ‘Mona’ and ‘Gwen’ and 3rd Parlour No. 85.

 

Other new tooling for 2019

In addition to the Southern Related items above the new 2019 Hornby range also features the following new tooling items, including a building on the success of the industrial 0-4-0ST Peckett W4, two more industrial locomotives:

  • Peckett B2 0-6-0T (3 liveries)

    Picture courtesy A York

  • Ruston 48DS 0-4-0 supplied with match truck including additional pick ups (four liveries)

    Picture courtesy A York

  • LMS Princess Royal 4-6-2
  • GWR Large Prairie 2-6-2T 51xx/61xx class
  • LMS 20T brake van
  • GWR 57′ bow-ended non-gangwayed stock
  • BR Mk.IIf coaches
  • Refurbished BR Mk.III with automatic doors

Certainly an ambitious plan that shows confidence and positivity within Hornby as it heads to its centenary in 2020. The full Hornby 2019 range can be found on the Hornby website here or RMweb here

Talking Stock #32 Kitting out the various brake vans

The humble brake van was an every part of the railway scene up until the advent of continuous brakes for most freight stock in the early 1970’s.  They initially served two purposes: to provide additional braking for ‘unfitted’ goods trains and of course somewhere for the guard to travel; later vans were also ‘fitted’ for working on such vacuum brake fitted formations. They were a weighted wagon equipped with a hand internally operable brake acting on all wheels they ranged from the 4 or 6 wheel type to sometimes 8 wheels and also bogie types. The ‘fitter’ versions having vacuum cylinders and able to operate the brakes on the fitted stock that make up the train (some vans were simply through piped to allow continuity of the braking system without being able to actually operate it, in such such cases just the hand brake was available for use.

The guard’s accommodation often included one or two verandas, or closed ends with windows and many also incorporated side lookouts or duckets to allow a guard to look forwards along the side of the train.

This post follows on from the announcement by Kernow models of their ready to run version of the ex LSWR 10T Road van to diagram 1541 and will look at a few kit built examples of brake vans that can be found running on Fisherton Sarum.

Dia 1545 Road Van

The ex LSWR 10T road van mentioned above was known as a road van as in addition to the guard’s accommodation and single veranda it has side opening doors on each side and the van could also be used the carrying of goods. This van is currently available in resin kit form from The Smallbrook Studio.  To the left can be be seen my model of the  20T Diagram 1545 Road Van also a resin kit form from The Smallbrook Studio. As well as being heavier that the Diagram 1541 road van  they were also larger, had a veranda at both ends and side duckets.

Dia 1543 ex LSWR 20T Brake Van, still requires completion of transfers and matt varnish before being finished

Staying with the LSWR seen left is my model  20T brake van to diagram 1543. This is built from a Jedenco / Falcon Brass  etched brass kit. 75 of this this type of van were built between 1915 and 1921.  They were known to staff as ‘new vans’ a name which they kept well into the 1950’s!

Dia 1748 ex SECR Ballast Plough Brake Van

Moving further east, I have a couple of ex SECR brake vans firstly is one that is perfectly at home on the ex LSWR metals as it is ex SECR 20T Ballast Plough brake van, diagram 1748, in the civil engineers fleet. The first lone prototype was built in 1914 with 3 more being built by the SR in 1932, a further 8 with slight detail differences were built in 1949.  In addition to the brakes it also had ploughs to rake freshly applied ballast from hoppers in the same train. These ploughs could be raised or lowered as required from inside the van. This particular model, also built from a Jedenco etched brass kit, has already featured on these pages here along with its companion rake of 40t Ballast hoppers.

Dia 1559 ex SECR ‘Dancehall’ Brake Van, yes must properly fix that handrail!

Finally for this post we see an ex SECR ‘Dancehall’ 25T brake van to Diagram 1559 First introduced in 1921., The SR built a further batch between 1923 and 1927 but these had deeper 15” instead of 12” channel underframes and were given the diagram number 1560. These vans gained the nickname ‘Dancehall’ due to the large amount of space inside them. They were long lived vans surviving, albeit modified, in departmental use right up until the 1970’s. This is built from a Cambrian Models plastic kit. 

There are of of course other SR related kits and ready to run brake vans available and some of these may well feature in future posts, although my review of the Bachmann RTR 25T ‘Pill box’ brake van can be read here.