Recent 4mm model releases and from Hornby, Dapol, and the latest Class 24 from SLW

Some say that Southern modellers have never had it so good. Over the last couple of months a number of SR / BR(s) related products have arrived in 4mm scale (a future post will catch with recent 2mm releases). These have included: from Hornby the Class 71, ex LSWR 0415 Adams radial tanks, ex LSWR Maunsell rebuilt 58′ non corridor stock and Dapol SR style signals. I am also pleased to start with be able to provide an update on the next Class 24 release from the Sutton’s Locomotive Works.

Sutton’s locomotive Works Class 24

In my post about the launch of the Sutton Locomotive Works (SLW) Class 24 here I highlighted not only that the BR Derby built, Type 2 diesels, Class 24s played an early role in the initial modernisation plans for the Southern Region, but also that their were some details variations among the initial members of the class.

Class 24 as D5016 with ‘Athermos’ axle boxes n the condition that it worked on the Southern Region.
Class 24 as D5016 with ‘Athermos’ axle boxes n the condition that it worked on the Southern Region.

The main differences were that ten of the initial batch of 20 locomotives D5010 to D5019 and therefore nine of those that worked on the Southern Region, were fitted with the distinctive larger but experimental ‘Athermos’ axle boxes, rather than the SKF roller type that became the standard.

Philip Sutton the man behind SLW advised me at the time of writing that tooling had been produced to this variation in the future.

A view of the SLW D5016 on non ETH fitted Bulleid stock one of the reasons why they were needed on the BR(s)
A view of the SLW D5016 on non ETH fitted Bulleid stock one of the reasons why they were needed on the BR(s)

Philip paid a visit to me on Fisherton Sarum at the Barnstaple show at the end of last month with a ‘hot of the production line’ SLW catalogue number 2403 as D5016, with the ‘Athermos’ axle boxes along with extra bodyside air intake grilles, original exhaust and front end doors in all over green livery.
It goes without saying that I took the opportunity to take a quick snap of the D5016 on the main running line of Fisherton Sarum. I can also confirm that the running quality demonstrated was as good as all the plaudits elsewhere have stated. I must congratulate Philip Sutton on his attention to detail and model design with these models.

Hornby

Hornby’s output of new models over the last few months has continued at pace and for Southern modellers we now seen recently the arrival of the Class 71 Bo-Bo electric, the Class 0415 Adams 4-4-2T Radial and within the last couple of weeks the ex LSWR 58ft Maunsell rebuilt non corridor coaching stock.

Set 45 comprising of a Dia 418 Brake Composite and and Dia 99 Brake Third
Set 45 comprising of a Dia 418 Brake Composite and a Dia 99 Brake Third

The latter coaches have been developed with the assistance of friend and Southern rolling stock guru Mike King and splendidly and exquisitely (insert any other positive adjective here) represent the 58tft stock converted in 1934/5 from ex LSWR 488ft stock to Diagram 99 and Diagram 418 Brake Third and Brake Composites respectively that made up 2 coach lav Sets 42 to 46 and also the diagram 31 all third and diagram 99 brake third that were mainly used as ‘loose’ coaches. They capture the prototypes very well including the characteristic timber weatherboard that ran the full length of each coach at floor level owing to the new standard SR underframes being slightly wider than the ex LSWR bodies.

Diagram 31 all Third
Diagram 31 all Third ‘loose’ coach

Although sold as individual coaches the Dia 99 and 418 coaches have been correctly numbered, including the central end set numbering, to make up sets 42 and 43 in unlined SR olive (as introduced) and BR crimson liveries respectively. See my original Hornby 2016 announcement post here for the relevant Hornby R numbers.

Diagram 98 Brake Third 'Loose' coach
Diagram 98 Brake Third ‘Loose’ coach

These coaches were seen on the Lyme Regis branch, so are therefore a perfect companion for the ex LSWR 0415 Adams Radial  4-4-2 tanks, but also these coaches were seen on both branch and local services on across the South Western section of the SR / BR(s).
These continue the standard set by Hornby with their recent coach releases such as the Maunsell stock. Fine details include separately applied hand rails and grab handles, a representation of the grills behind the luggage compartment doors, very well detailed bogies,  fine livery application including window smoking signs.

A close up of the end of the Dia 418 Brake composite showing the exquisite detail
A close up of the end of the Dia 418 Brake Composite showing the exquisite detail

These coaches did gain SR malachite livery followed by BR style lettering on malachite (heavily varnished so slightly darker in appearance) in addition to the unlined Olive and BR crimson so far released so Hornby have a few more livery options up their sleeve. The 2 lav sets did not make it into post BR(s) Green although it is understood that a small number of the Diagram 31 and Diagram 99 coaches did.

For those wishing to fit Kadee buckeye style couplings, I can confirm that the Kadee number 18 medium length fit nicely between the coaches, bringing the sprung buffers together and should also enable the coaches to be able to be propelled OK on 2nd radius and above trackwork.

Going head to head:  both the Class 71 and the class 0415 Adams radials are going head to head with other manufacturers with the former up against the DJModels class 71 that is yet arrive and the latter with the earlier released Adams radial from Oxford Rail.

The Hornby 0415 class Adams Radial as No 30582
The Hornby 0415 class Adams Radial as No 30582

I do not currently have a Hornby Class 71 as I have preferred to wait for the DJM version which I feel is likely to be the slightly more higher specification and detailed version, however having been able to get a close look at the Hornby pre-production samples of the Adams radial last year I decided to wait for the slightly more expensive but overall in my view more accurate (taking all the slight detail variations between the locomotives at different times in their lives), and finer Hornby version, pictured left. Mine will soon be backdated to 1946 guise as 3520 in Bulleid post war black ‘Sunshine lettering ‘ livery.

Dapol 

Dapol SR Rail Post signals
Dapol SR Rail Post signals

The Dapol working upper quadrant Southern Signals available as Rail Post (for some reason named by Dapol as ‘Ladder post’) in both Home and Distant styles and a short lattice post platform Starter (some might say dinky) have now hit the retailers.
I have had previously heard mixed reports about the reliability of the previously issued Dapol signal due to their mechanism, along with the rather odd control single pulse to change control method (which does not make it easy to know which position the signal is in from the switch). It does seem anecdotally that those signals that have been controlled by a DCC accessory decoder appear to fair better than directly via push to make switch.
It is my understanding that these release utilise the same mechanism as the previous releases.

Dapol have also announced (05/08/16) that they have Merged with Lionheart Trains that will see much of the Lionheart Trains range of 7mm 0 gauge come under the Dapol brand. Richard Webster of Lionheart Trains has been working closely, (with a little assistance from myself) with Dapol on the development of new models in all scales.

As I said in the introduction above a round up of some of the recent 2mn releases will be the subject of a future post soon, so what this space.

 

11 thoughts on “Recent 4mm model releases and from Hornby, Dapol, and the latest Class 24 from SLW

  1. I had to smile at your advice to be patient re USA tanks. Mine has been on order since May 2014 with no real info as to how the project was progressing. I hope the result will be worthwhile.

  2. There are currently four SLW class 24 locomotives on my test track (though not all mine I hasten to add) and these are superb models setting new standards for 4mm.

    The two (blue) visitors are DCC fitted and with stereo speakers inside, the sound is excellent even on DC; I’ve not heard anything that comes close.

    It appears both the two green versions were both on the BR(S) although D5016 came across to Stewart’s Lane after the original fifteen(?) arrived and possibly as a replacement (D5018 may have also arrived under similar circumstances).

    1. “The 2 lav sets did not make it into post BR(s) Green although it is understood that a small number of the Diagram 31 and Diagram 99 coaches did”

      S169S (8/10/56), S187S (31/8/56), S219S (19/9/56), S313S (1/10/56), S320S (4/10/56), S360S (28/11/56) & S373S (11/9/56) – all were ‘loose’ diagram 31 vehicles.

      Courtesy of research by Glen Woods

  3. I totally concur about the Hornby rebuilt coaches and the Radial Tank, I got mine last week and found them superb.

  4. I’m thinking of getting the new Maunsell coaches in BR finish. How would they go together as a set? Would they run all 4 in one set?
    Are there any books which would detail this?
    Thanks

    1. If you want BR liveried versions I wouldn’t wait as they are selling out fast.

      R4646 (S2737S) & R4648 (S6402S) formed set 43 as used on SWD branch lines. The other two coaches were Loose and potentially could have strengthened set 43 at any given point in time.

      1. The models are superb, the five sets were used all over the West Country whilst the loose coaches were used on all three divisions on all sorts of services and if you model the southern railway/region from the mid 30s to the late 50s you can justify at least one of the loose stock

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