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Posts Tagged ‘SECR P class 0-6-0t’
Picture of the Month – May 2022
Posted in Canute Road Quay, Picture of the Month, tagged Canute Road Quay, P Class, Picture of the Month, SECR P class 0-6-0t, Southern, Southern Railway on May 1, 2022| 2 Comments »
Picture of the Month – October 2021
Posted in Canute Road Quay, Picture of the Month, tagged Canute Road Quay, Hattons, London Chatham and Dover Railway, Q Kits, SECR, SECR P class 0-6-0t, South Eastern and Chatham Railway, Southern, Southern Railway, T Class 0-6-0T on October 1, 2021| 1 Comment »
Picture of the Month – September 2021
Posted in Canute Road Quay, Picture of the Month, tagged Canute Road Quay, Hattons, London Chatham and Dover Railway, Q Kits, SECR, SECR P class 0-6-0t, South Eastern and Chatham Railway, Southern, Southern Railway, T Class 0-6-0T on September 1, 2021| 5 Comments »
Picture of the Month – August 2021
Posted in Canute Road Quay, Picture of the Month, tagged Canute Road Quay, Hattons, London Chatham and Dover Railway, Q Kits, SECR, SECR P class 0-6-0t, South Eastern and Chatham Railway, Southern, Southern Railway, T Class 0-6-0T on August 1, 2021| 2 Comments »
Making Quay Changes #6 heading South East
Posted in Canute Road Quay, Making Quay Changes, tagged Canute Road Quay, Dover Docks, ex SER 0-4-0CT Crane Engine, Hattons, LCDR, London, London Chatham and Dover Railway, Newhaven Harbour, Q Kits, Richborough, Rochester, SECR, SECR P class 0-6-0t, SER, South Eastern and Chatham Railway, South Eastern Finecast, South Eastern Railway, Southampton Docks, T Class 0-6-0T on November 22, 2020| 1 Comment »
This is the sixth in a series of ‘Making Quay Changes’ posts with the Canute Road Quay being transported to either a different location or era or both. It follows my Making Quay Changes #1 post moving the scene Eastwards, and then back to Southampton with my Making Quay Changes #2 post but in the 1950s , #3 post set in the 1920/30s, #4 Being Industrious and #5 the 07 diesels take over. We now move to the South East with ex SECR motive power being utilised.

The P Class No.1558 from Hattons shunts at the quay

The T Class No. 1604 0-6-0T simmers in the background

The P class and T class meet on the Quay and shows the diminutive size of the P class

The LCDR T Class arrives as the quay.

The SER 0-40CT No. 1302 waits its next duty

The P class No. 1558 is about to depart

A busy moment at the quay
Although my usual modelling genre, as regular readers will know, is the Southern Railway between 1946 and 1949, however due to Canute Road Quay has very few visual references to either period or location (yes there are a couple, but hey…) It therefore allows me to change the location and era with different rolling stock, vehicles and details.
For this post we have stayed at Canute Road Quay‘s usual time frame but moved its location slightly. Having deliberately when building Canute Road Quay left the vehicles and other details such as crates, sack stacks and oil drums etc. loose, it enables them to be both be moved around, to give some variety in photographs, and or replaced with other items to different periods.
In this case Canute Road Quay‘s has been transported further to the South East, perhaps through squinted eyes it could on the Medway at Rochester, or or the Channel coast at Richborough Port or Newhaven Harbour perhaps…
The steam locomotives include the Hattons ex SECR P class 0-6-0T, an ex London, Chatham and Dover Railway Kirtey T Class 0-6-0T and even my South Eastern Railway 0-4-0CT crane tank makes an appearance.
The T class 0-6-0T were a class of ten locomotives introduced by the LC&DR (prior to the formation of the South, Eastern and Chatham Railway in 1899) between 1879 and 1893 specifically for shunting duties, with appropriately one of the class being initially used at Dover Docks. Although withdraws started in 1932 two of the class 1602 and 1604 (as my model) lasted until July 1951 and November 1950 respectively. My model is white metal and built from a Q Kit.
The SER 0-4-0CT crane tank number 1302 as per my model, was one of two built for the SER by Neilson in 1881. Like the T class she had worked at Dover Docks and also Richborough although she saw out most of her life at Lancing and Stewarts Lane. She was withdrawn in July 1949 and scrapped at Ashford. My model is built from a South Eastern Finecast white metal kit.
I hope you enjoy this post, the next ‘Making Quay Changes’ post with Canute Road Quay may or may not be set in its usual location, so once again, where and what era will it be…?
Model Railway Awards for 2018, like buses two come along at once, vote now, vote Southern of course… (and a bit of a shameless plug!)
Posted in General, Kernow Models, Model News, tagged 07 Class, Bachmann, British Railway Modelling magazine, Bulleid diesel, D15 Class, Dapol, ex LSWR B4 Class, H1 Class, H2 Class, Hattons, Heljan, Hornby, kernow model centre, Lord Nelson class, Maunselll coaches, Model of the year award, Model Rail Magazine, SECR P class 0-6-0t, Southern, Southern Railway, Southern Region on January 2, 2019| 2 Comments »
It’s the start of 2019 and two separate votes for UK Model Railway Awards have opened.
Voting for the 2018 British Model Railways Awards promoted on RMweb and British Railways Modelling Magazine is now live and open for voting until 20th January with the winners being announced in the Spring edition of British Railways Modelling Magazine and on RMweb.
As well as giving you the chance to vote for your favourite models and manufacturers of 2018, the categories also celebrate excellence and innovation in the wider British model railway scene such as websites, retailers and exhibitions.
Also voting has also opened in the Model Rail Magazine Model of the Year 2018 (MOTY) which is live until January 18th
There have of course been a number of excellent Southern / Southern Region related models released during 2018 so I urge you to support the production of these models by choosing your best in the relevant category and voting accordingly. These Southern models are as follows:
N Gauge:
- Dapol Maunsell Brake Third Coach
00 Gauge
- Bachmann H1 / H2 4-4-2
- Dapol ex LSWR B4 Class 0-4-0T
- Hatton’s ex SECR P Class 0-6-0T
- Hornby Lord Nelson 4-6-0 (BMRA only)
- Heljan 07 Class 0-6-0
- Kernow Model Rail Centre Bulleid Diesel 10201/2 (MR- MOTY only)
- Kernow Model Rail Centre Bulleid Diesel 10203
- Hornby Maunsell Restaurant Diner
- ’00’ works ex LSWR D15 4-4-0 (MR MOTY only)
I am also very humbled to see that this little corner of the blogosphere of mine has once again been nominated in the British Model Railways Awards (it was voted 6th in last years awards) within the website of the year category, so and this is a bit of a, well a big, shameless plug, please feel free to vote for it, if you have enjoyed my ramblings over the last twelve months.
Also if like me you have received excellent service from a particular retailer such as Kernow Model Rail Centre please also vote accordingly.
Please make sure you vote counts to support the Southern / Southern Region models that have been produced in 2018 by voting here in the British Model Railway Awards open until the end of Sunday 20th January and by voting here in the Model Rail Magazine Model of the Year (MOTY) open until Friday 18th January.
Here endeth the shameless plug(s)….
Hatton’s announce four more SECR P Class 0-6-0t versions
Posted in Model News, tagged Hattons, Saddle tank, SECR P class 0-6-0t, South Eastern and Chatham Railway, Southern, Southern Railway, Southern Region, Wainwright on June 7, 2018| 2 Comments »
Following on from the release earlier this year of their delightful SECR P Class 0-6-0t Hatton’s have today announced that four new versions of the SECR P Class will soon be available. Based on feedback from the modelling community, Hatton’s will be producing extra SECR lined green and BR liveries, with new running numbers; and for the first time they will produce two ROD (Railway Operating Division) locomotives.
Production sample locomotives have been approved and they are on the way to their store now.
The four new variants are:
- H4-P-013 – 5027 in ROD green
- H4-P-014 – 5753 in ROD green
- H4-P-015 – 27 in SE&CR full lined green (with polished brass)
- H4-P-016 – 31556 in BR black with early emblem
The ‘ROD’ liveried P Classes were sent to Boulogne for a few years during WW1 for shunting at dockyards. On return to the UK, they were also seen working at Dover and Folkestone. These WW1-era locos will be perfect for a variety of UK or continental wartime layouts.
The SECR liveried locomotive will feature a new colour for the polished brass dome and safety valve. The new colour represents polished brass, which is halfway between our original release of P Classes 178 & 753; and Hornby’s H Class.
The new locomotives will be available on Friday 17th August 2018 for the same price of £99. All four are available to pre-order from Hatton’s now!
We can be ‘relieved’ it’s a good model, a review of the @hattonsmodels ex SECR Wainwright P Class 0-6-0t
Posted in Model News, tagged Hattons, Saddle tank, SECR P class 0-6-0t, South Eastern and Chatham Railway, Southern, Southern Railway, Southern Region, Wainwright on April 2, 2018| 9 Comments »
Hatton’s only announced their production of the ex SECR Wainwright P Class tanks after first Engineering Prototypes had been received back in September last year as I reported in my “Can I have a P please” post, here. Although it was hoped to be able to deliver these before the end of last year Hattons should be congratulated in getting 10 of the 12 initially announced versions to the market last week, a refreshingly short process time especially as this is the first locomotive project that Hatton’s have handled direct with the manufacturing company in China. The two SECR lined livery versions will be following shortly.
Although only eight P class locomotives were built, there were a number of differences between the members of the class and during their lifetime and Hatton’s have certainly risen exceptionally well to the challenge.
The first two members of the class introduced in February 1909 numbers 753/556/1556/31556 and 754/557/1557/31557 had 4 and half inch taller cabs and side tanks than the remaining six members that were built in February and July 1910. Although only a small difference in height it is noticeable when the locos are side by side.
Hatton’s have tooled for both cab / tank height styles, the two different smokeboxes with different rivet patterns, two main types of buffers, alternative rear steam heating pipes, smokebox lubricators, number plates (where applicable) and with or without glazing bars on the rear cab spectacles.
The first 12 version announced by Hatton’s are as follows:
- H4-P-01 No. 178 in SECR lined green, 1910-11 (as preserved) short cab, SR Buffers, smokebox with 1 row of rivets and lubricator
- H4-P-02 No. 753 in SECR lined green, 1909-11 (as preserved) tall cab, SR Buffers, rear window bars, smokebox with 2 rows of rivets and lubricator
- H4-P-03 No. 754 in SECR wartime grey, 1910-1920s, tall cab, Bottle buffers, higher steam pipes and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-04 No. A325 in Southern Railway lined olive green, 1924 to mid 1930s, short cab, bottle buffers, rear window bars, higher steam pipe and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-05 No. 1555 in Southern Railway black, 1938-48, short cab, bottle buffers, rear window bars, higher steam pipe and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-06 No. 1558 in Southern Railway black with Sunshine lettering, 1941-48, short cab, bottle buffers, rear window bars, higher steam pipe and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-07 No. 31027 in BR black with early emblem, 1949 to withdrawal in 1961, short cab, SR buffers, rear window bars, higher steam pipe and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-08 No. 31323 in BR black with late crest, 1959-61, short cab, SR buffers, rear window bars and smokebox with 1 row of rivets
- H4-P-09 “Pioneer II” in Bowaters Paper Mill lined green, 1958-61 (ex 178/1178/31178) short cab, SR buffers, no vacuum pipe and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-10 “Pride of Sussex” in Robertsbridge flour mill green, 1961-71, (ex 53/556/1556/31556), tall cab, SR buffers, no steam pipe and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-11 No. 27 “Primrose” in Bluebell Railway lined black, 1961-63, short cab, SR buffers, rear window bars and smokebox with 2 rows of rivets
- H4-P-12 No. 323 in Bluebell lined blue (as preserved) short cab, SR buffers, lubricator and smokebox with 1 row of rivets

A 3./4 rear view of No. 754 in SECR war time grey note no glazing bars on the rear cab spectacles. (which will become No. 1557 in SR post war black livery)
The model is supplied in a Hatton’s branded sturdy foam lined box and further protected by the now common up and over plastic tray in a plastic sleeve. It should be noted that this outer sleeve is a very tight fit so care should be taken trying to access the model. I also positively note that packing allows for the tension lock couplings to remain in place.

Four and half inches does not equate to much in 4mm scale but as can be seen it is just noticeable with the high cab to the right on 754
Hopefully the pictures of three of the models with in this post will speak for themselves. I am certainly very impressed with the build quality (although on the rear sprung buffers was loose on one of my examples), finesse and level of separately applied details such as: fine blackened handrails, detailed cab interior, drain cocks, oil lubricators, brass whistle, lamp irons front and rear, smokebox number plate (i.e. not moulded) on BR versions.
An accessory bag of further detaining parts is provided that contains: buffer beam coupling hooks with cosmetic screw link couplings, steam heating pipes of a type relevant to the livery of the loco, 3 off SR Engine Head Signal discs (referred to incorrectly as “Route Indicator Disks” within the supplied instruction sheet) an SR style lamp and what must be a first for an R-T-R model 3 off tiny oil cans!

The Sunshine style lettering also incorrectly includes the inner black line within the numerals (click to enlarge)
The livery application is very crisp and a nice stain finish, very much as we have come to expect from current R-T-R models. Manufacturers build plates and the SECR ownership plates (where applicable) are printed rather than separate etched items. I have however spotted that the SR post war black version the ‘Sunshine’ numerals are incorrect in that they should not have the inside black line as this was only applied to the ‘Southern’ lettering.
Within the cabs the various gauges are part of the spectacle glazing insert they have dials / needles nicely printed on them although the moulding also has the copper pipe runs to these gauges but have been left unprinted / painted.
With its 5 Pole motor within the boiler and gearbox within the firebox (allowing the daylight gap under the boiler), boiler weights and all wheel pick up the performance is smooth and reliable at all speeds. A 6 pin DCC socket is included, accessed by the removal of the body, simply achieved via the four screws located on the underside either side of the NEM coupling pockets. Not surprisingly in a model of such small prototype sound fitting will be a slight challenge requiring some modelling skills but helpfully Hatton’s have suggested a process for achieving this within the supplied instruction sheet.
My No. 1558 will be simply weathered, whilst No. 1556 will be changed to one of the current missing livery options as her later early 1948 identity of No.31556 with ‘British Railways’ in SR Sunshine lettering style, whilst tall cab No. 754 will become her later 1557 identity in SR post war black as per No. 1558. As there are still possibly two or three some other livery versions possible some of these might yet appear so watch this space.
In conclusion as I am sure you can tell Hatton’s have produced and excellent model and with the number of versions announced should be very popular for modellers of the South East from all periods including the preservation era.